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Children vs. The Marriage

I am a fan of The Generous Wife, a Christian website that sends out a daily e-mail to women with tips on ways to improve their marriage.

But today’s tip was one of those that I disagree with.  Passionately.  So much so, that I’m pulling out a blog post that I wrote 5 years ago this month, and with a few minor modifications, I’m reposting it.  So without further ado…from the archives…

This past weekend I took a trip to the largest Christian bookstore in my area. While there, I took a look at the books on parenting, to see if there was anything new. My eyes fell upon First Time Mom by Kevin Leman. While I don’t agree with everything that Dr. Leman teaches, I find him to be an enjoyable author, and worth recommending. Curious about what he had to say, I picked up the book and skimmed a few pages.

I was heartened to see him strongly advocating practices such as breastfeeding on demand (though I did wonder why he settled on 6-10 feeds per day when the AAP recommends 8-12?), baby wearing, and making sure the mom sleeps when baby sleeps so she doesn’t wear herself out trying to keep a pristine house.

Then of course came the problematic part. He stated with confident certainty that new parents MUST make time to go on a date without the baby by the time the baby is 10 days old. (Update note:  The Generous Wife reccommends an overnight get-a-way every 2-3 months.)  This is to establish the importance of the marriage, to protect it.  Not only is this date supposed to unite the couple, I got the impression that somehow this is supposed to send the message to the baby that the marriage is important. He was specific that the couple needed to leave the newborn with a sitter and go out.

With this he joins the legion of Christian parenting experts who insist on the necessity of dates without the children—these dates ranging from getting the kids to bed early so you can have a dinner alone to hiring a babysitter on a weekly basis so that you can get out of the house.

Now I agree that it is important to keep your marriage a priority after children enter the picture. I don’t even have a problem with parents going on dates. But I have a problem whenever an “expert” starts saying that this is absolutely necessary to your marriage. Especially when that message is sent in a Christian context.

I see no where in the Bible where “date nights” for parents are even discussed, let alone mandated. Given the importance that the Bible places on maintaining marital integrity, I would think that if dates are essential to that goal they would at least get a “by the way…” somewhere in the scriptures. But they don’t.

One of the problems that I see with dates nights is that folks that so strongly advocate them are pushing a “one size fits all” approach to maintaining a marriage (and while The Generous Wife typically has a “take what works for you” tone to her tips, todays had a different tone…almost a “if you aren’t doing this, you aren’t trying hard enough” tone).  Obviously they have found dates nights helpful to their marriage, so they insist that they are helpful to all marriages.

Well what if they aren’t? In the 6 years since I’ve been a mother I’ve probably gone on about a dozen “dates” with my husband–and probably less than half of those have been without any children. A couple of those—3 I think—have been overnight trips (New Year’s Eve 2000, our 5th anniversary, my birthday before our 4th child was born).  (Update:  11.5 years into my marriage, and “date nights” still don’t figure in highly.  Hubby and I do try to find ways to connect, like me bringing lunch to his work site, but I typically have a baby in tow.  Since I wrote the original blog we have added only 2 over-night trips alone, its now been over 2 years since our last over-night trip.)  I can’t say that any of these dates—even the overnight trips—are particularly memorable to me as bonding events for my marriage. They are pleasant events that provide a chance to relax away from the kids, yes, but bonding? Not particularly. Each overnight trip we have gone into so tired from the rigors of everyday life that we generally spend 10-12 hrs sleeping—again, a relaxing and rejuvenating experience, but hardly a time of marital bonding.

What I do find to be a bonding experience in my marriage is sharing in the joys and struggles of raising a family together. Nothing has made me love my husband more than seeing him gently hold our newborn babies, examining the contrast between their tiny hands and feet and his larger ones. The memories that we hold dear and reminisce on together are of working around our house—with kids underfoot for the most part. Often having the kids underfoot is what helps to lead to the situations that are so memorable and bonding. One time when I asked my grandmother—who raised 5 children and had been married for about 55 years when I posed the question—about the necessity of date nights she assured me that she and my grandfather had rarely gone on dates until after the kids were out of the house, and that her belief was that mature adults would find everyday life more bonding than dates away from the kids.

When it comes to date nights in the newborn period, I find them to be an unnecessary burden at best, a squandering of God’s resources at worst. They stand as a “burden” because typically a breastfeeding mother would want to provide breastmilk for her newborn. At 10 days of age she may have great difficulty pumping enough for a bottle in between the frequent feedings the baby requires. Once she obtains this bottle, she may return from the date to find out that the baby refused the bottle, and is now very upset. Since it is generally recommended that breastfed babies not be introduced a bottle until 4-6 weeks of age the mother might try to time the date so that she can be out between the feedings, returning home to nurse. But since breastfed babies often increase their feeding frequency in the evening in response to mom’s lower milk supply, this may prove difficult to manage.

Since many families today are widely spaced geographically the young parents may have no nearby family to provide free babysitting services, so they may have to pay a babysitter while they go on a date. Given how portable and generally unobtrusive newborn babies can be (my firstborn slept at a bowling alley when she was about 6 weeks old!), I think it is a squandering of the money God has blessed the couple with to hire a babysitter. Ironically, one of my more memorable “date nights” since getting married was a Valentine dinner hosted by our church’s Homebuilders’ Sunday School class–we went with our 1.5 day old son in tow (though our two daughters were home with a sitter). It was held in the same historic inn that our wedding reception was in. I nursed my son in a room that George Washington ate in–maybe I even sat on the same chair?

A deeper problem I have with the advocacy of date nights (or over night get aways) is the underlying message behind them. Invariably the message that is clearly stated (as it was by Dr. Leman) or subtly alluded to is that children are a hindrance to the marriage, and parents must be regularly separated from the children to maintain a healthy marriage. While I do think that it is good for children to “get away” from their parents once in a while (I wish my kids could spend the night with Nana and Poppop more than they can—I know I treasured the opportunity to spend the night with my grandparents when I was a child) just as parents do need a break from the rigors of parenting once in a while, I think setting them up as adversaries to the marriage is unhealthy. The Bible states that children are a blessing.

But far too often I think that in Christian society we don’t really see them that way. We see them as “in the way” far to often. We banish them from Sunday morning worship, small group Bible studies and Sunday school social events. I even heard one mother recently proudly proclaim that her children ate their dinner in the kitchen so that she and her husband could enjoy a nightly meal without being bothered by them.

It is through serving others—including our children—that we will be most blessed. May all parents be richly blessed.

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Posted in Home and Spiritual Sunday 2 months ago at 12:10 pm.

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  1. Hear, hear! Particularly the part about bonding *with* the children and *because of* children’s issues.

    My husband and I make sure we have time just to ourselves, but it’s usually with the kids in the other room, rather than a “night out.” We pop in a DVD for them, and *voilà*, time alone.

  2. I couldn’t agree more. There is so much I could say, but you put it perfectly.

  3. I can honestly say my daughter will be 1 in 4 weeks and DH and I have left her for a “date night” once. On our anniversary, for 3 hours. We nurse on demand and co-sleep and I can’t imagine even having the desire to leave my girls. I am now expecting #3 and doubt we’ll have many alone “date nights” for many years. We do enjoy family time very much and have a blast bringing our kids with us out to dinner, to a hotel for an evening, or whatever else we decide to do. We live next door to my mom, so babysitting isn’t an issue, we just really enjoy having a family. Very well written. I would also say coming from a birthing mother/ Doula perspective, I wouldn’t reccomend anyone even leave the house for the first 6 weeks, that is a very special bonding/recovery time. The Bible certianly wouldn’t reccomend going on a date ten days after giving birth, in most cultures that was still an “unclean” period of time…

  4. Yes Jenn (another Jenn), you make a good point about the woman being “unclean.” In Biblical times a woman was not expected to fulfill her normal duties for 40 days after a birth. That allowed time for her to recover.

  5. This is not an issue I’ve thought about before, but on consideration I completely agree with you. I think it’s a bit like the insistence on “me time” — that spending all of your time with your kids will drive you crazy, and that you have to make sure that meeting their needs doesn’t prevent you from meeting your own. It kind of misses the whole point that caring for others means self-sacrifice, and that as Christians we are supposed to put others first without worrying about ourselves, just relying on God to meet our needs. I mean, of course, there’s no reason why you shouldn’t rest whenever you can, eat good food and drink plenty of water, exercise, and even have fun whenever the opportunity arises. But if you stop worrying about when you can get some time to yourself you’ll likely find that the best times are with your kids.

    The “date night” idea, similarly, misses the point. Before you had kids your marriage didn’t live or die (hopefully) on how often you went out to dinner alone. A good relationship is not about cocktails or violins or hotel rooms, it’s about meeting eachother’s needs. Being a good wife is about putting my husband before myself, about treating him with respect, about meeting his needs, about fidelity — all things actually mentioned in the Bible, and all things that, when we both practice them, make us actually want to spend time alone together. ;)

    (Personally, my husband and I enjoy spending time together every night after the kids go to bed. It’s something that doesn’t require any arranging since we just don’t get tired as early as the kids do, and it’s relaxing. But there’s a big difference between “we enjoy this time alone” and “if we don’t get some time away from the kids our marriage will suffer.”)

  6. Carrie Ballek Jan 8th 2010

    Our first child was born while we were living in southern California - without our families nearby. Our first trip back to Pennsylvania when she was just 7 months old concurred with our first “date night.”

    10 months later, our son was born.

    We are an NFP (natural family planning) couple and I have to agree to with Jenn on this one -

    Date Night, not necessary!!!

    Praying together, hugs and lots of kind words - very necessary.

    Thank you for this post.

  7. This has been my experience as well. Thanks for this post! I quoted parts and referenced it on my blog.

  8. Finally a Christian blogger has spoken with Biblical wisdom. I agree with you totally and my experience has been very similar to yours. I think date night is a secular and non Christian concept. The best bonding experiences and memories have been the ones made with my children in tow. As well as the best marital bonding experiences have been the ones in our own bed and under our own roof. I think when a husband and wife can understand and adapt to the need of a newborn breastfeeding baby they are at their best as “one” in their relationship with each other and God.

  9. Thank you Tereza!

    Last night I went to the Valentine’s banquet at my church (sans kids…) and had a lovely time. But I felt a bit awkward as I listened to one young couple, with a 4 month old baby, tell their story, and how they how many marriage retreats they’ve gone to (they’ve been married for 1/5th as long as my hubby and me, and yet they’ve gone to about 3 times as many marriage retreats!), They have made a commitment to take one weekend away per year (mostly to attend marriage retreats) until “death do us part.” While they did certainly talk about how pursing their relationship with God together had helped to bring them together, I almost wondered if they hadn’t made their marriage into a “god?” Have they made a similar commitment to pursuing their relationship with God as they had to pursuing their relationship with each other?

  10. Wow, Lehman sounds like Ezzo on that “marriage *must* come first” point. Yowzers! No the kind of company I’d want to keep, LOL.


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